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Post by jericho on Feb 4, 2016 21:58:10 GMT 2
Hello guys, first of all I like very much this map, I am playing it since December 2015. I have some questions about this awsome map and I feel I have to speak with people from this comunity the map has made.
This map has become very popular among European players, so what are the differences between korean and english version ? Nothing special, but most of players are playing the english version and the reason is simple: Item translation. Nobody couldn't advance at this map without english translation made by Magepowers . Also, maps made in english are much more attractive than maps made in other language. There is no difference between korean and eng version, only item translation. People keeps saying that korean version is official therefore you won't get acces to level 300 dungeons if you are playing english version. WHAT ? Does the author care about english comunity and their time they have spend on his map ? People who play korean version kicks players who play english version. They say it's hacked and people could hack on it. WHAT ? I mean what is the reason you play this map ? Not to have fun ? Why to play with a hacked account, what is the point by doing that ? Where's the fun if you play using codes ? I never understood that. I am very confused and I want some answers from the map creator itself, if anyone who administrate this forum message him about this thread will be great. I wonder if he cares about players who play english version. Once and for all, how do people get acces to level 300 area ? Do they have to make a topic on cafenaver with all replays from level 1, playing ONLY korean version and prooving they have not cheated or how ? How to make a topic on a korean site if I am not korean ? This is not fair.
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Kon4ta
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Post by Kon4ta on Feb 5, 2016 1:28:39 GMT 2
Well if 300 content is really blocked, one solution for eng player would be that the translator unlock 300 content. As for the hacker, it's sad they made a hacked version of magepowers translated version but they could also had made one with the korean version, not that they should though
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Feb 5, 2016 9:15:55 GMT 2
Post by DGD-Kamina on Feb 5, 2016 9:15:55 GMT 2
This map has become very popular among European players, so what are the differences between korean and english version ?
In terms of gameplay, nothing that I can tell. However, I haven't gone through all the game code to be certain. I sure as hell don't have time to check it myself, do you? More fundamentally, it is unofficial and unofficial maps should be avoided in general. Nobody couldn't advance at this map without english translation made by Magepowers.
I got to level 265 before Magepowers even played the map. There is also non-korean group that broke 300 without the translated map OR the guide (TSMC/Senn etc). Also, maps made in english are much more attractive than maps made in other language.
Don't confuse personal opinion with fact. Does the author care about english comunity and their time they have spend on his map ?
He does not care, and there is no particular reason he should. However, if we ask him to map-ban cheaters after providing proof, he will. Also, Korean players are required to post all replays from lvl1-300 to gain higher access whereas non-Koreans only have to post 295-300. That's more than enough lenience for me, even though I choose to post all replays anyway. People who play korean version kicks players who play english version.
I've personally never kicked anyone just because they played the unofficial translated version, and neither has anyone from my clan. I doubt the other group's players care either. Actually I've never ever seen anyone get kicked from an HMRPG game unless you join a game for a set level range (like 255-265) and you don't have any loads for that. Whoever told you that anything in life is fair needs a psychological evaluation.
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Feb 5, 2016 13:57:51 GMT 2
Post by jericho on Feb 5, 2016 13:57:51 GMT 2
Are they going to check all my replays on my Blade Master? Some of them are longer than 2 hours. 70 replays until now. Even on 8X my War III crushes, doesn't matter how good is the computer, it's about warcraft engine.
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Feb 6, 2016 17:53:24 GMT 2
Post by jericho on Feb 6, 2016 17:53:24 GMT 2
Does anyone knows what is new on the new map ? HMRPGv5.5aIM.w3x
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Feb 6, 2016 17:54:52 GMT 2
Post by jericho on Feb 6, 2016 17:54:52 GMT 2
The only thing I see is a new portal with more boss raids. Edit: LOL, I dissapeared from the map when i tried to enter zeus.
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Kon4ta
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Post by Kon4ta on Feb 6, 2016 18:09:20 GMT 2
5.5aIM is to get 300 content even if you didn't get access by creator i think
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Feb 6, 2016 18:49:06 GMT 2
Post by DGD-Kamina on Feb 6, 2016 18:49:06 GMT 2
Are they going to check all my replays on my Blade Master? Some of them are longer than 2 hours. 70 replays until now. Even on 8X my War III crushes, doesn't matter how good is the computer, it's about warcraft engine. They are required to post a screenshot of your last save before you left the game and your save code .txt file, this way it only takes a few minutes to go through all your replays. They would only need to check that each replay is for an official map and that the screenshot matches the code file. Does anyone knows what is new on the new map ? HMRPGv5.5aIM.w3x This is just for 300+ content, it is an official map downloadable from the Korean site once you're confirmed 1-300.
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Feb 6, 2016 19:08:26 GMT 2
Post by jericho on Feb 6, 2016 19:08:26 GMT 2
So, each replay has to be only from korean? That's the official map. From 1 to 300 ?
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senn
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Feb 7, 2016 0:21:11 GMT 2
Post by senn on Feb 7, 2016 0:21:11 GMT 2
Nobody couldn't advance at this map without english translation made by Magepowers .
I wonder how my group almost passed map then? 0 help, 0 guides 0 english translation 0 boosting, 0 everything yet we're somehow 3 bosses away from fully completing the map. How is it possible i wonder Every single hm player today just hosts game, invites us mostly and presses right click on us while we get him high level and all items while that person is 99% of time afk, no wonder so many people have no clue about map. They just want to do things the easy way which kills point of games. People are just too lazy to actually play games nowadays and just complain on language or whatever they find to hold on to. Instead of all the complaining and excuses if people dedicated like 5% of themselves they'd progress easily on korean version without needing to wait on someone for translation/boosting etc. I can honestly say that 100% of players today that play hm will never kill a 300 arena boss just because of things i wrote above which is sad but oh well, that's rpg for u today. PS. we were lvl300 with full black items long before Magepowers even started playing map.
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Feb 7, 2016 3:15:21 GMT 2
Post by jericho on Feb 7, 2016 3:15:21 GMT 2
Anyone could do that with a team. And korean it's really easy if you have unifont installed. I played eng only to pass that warlock area (a lot of players asked me in private why do I play english), NOBODY was joining when I was hosting korean map, or they were leaving imediatly, realising that is not the english version. And, don't tell me again''it's easy to beat that area solo with all possible items for that level'' because is not. They have great ammount of spells: mana burn (i need mana for attribute shield and attribute weapon), heal, invulnerable, doom, slow, stun, miss curse so it's really impossible to beat that dungeon alone, doesn't matter the items you have for that level. I've farmed over 2000 INT on harpy solo on my first character. No help, no boost. Anyway, I've realised this map is a waste of time, i win nothing by playing it, you just upgrade items, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade items, nothing special. When people will realise they won't get acces to level 300 dungeon by playing english version they will leave, and this map will die as TWRPG .
I wish you '' good luck'' making the same dungeons again again again again and again. You might say I am a selfish person, and you are right I am selfish, but I can do anything what you and your group did: play only korean from level 0 to level 300, but it would take me 3 months beacuse this is not a solo map, and what I could do alone in 2 hours with a team I can do it in 30 minutes maybe. The thing is that Kamina never told me before I have to screenshoot at the final of the game, I've asked him dozens of times. Even you said the same thing when I asked you on garena: ''Replays below Pit Lord doesn't matter'
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Feb 7, 2016 8:06:01 GMT 2
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Post by scfrozen on Feb 7, 2016 8:06:01 GMT 2
How would i even create one item if it's not translated ? I must guess what the item need and where it's dropped why would i play korean version if i can't understand it at all
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Feb 7, 2016 14:48:34 GMT 2
Post by senn on Feb 7, 2016 14:48:34 GMT 2
See, thing is i know map too well and i can pass solo many dungeons with my eyes closed. So u telling me "warlocks are impossible solo is just another excuse". Also i passed gk solo with a 265 lvl hero first time ever, i also passed 4giants alone which take 25% hp per 1 hit (tell me again it's not possible solo because i have replay of those things as proof even). I don't understand why u just don't say "i'm lazy" rather than trying to find excuses like everyone else. And yes, replays bellow 265 are "OPTIONAL" i told u that like 5 times, u can have them but they aren't a "MUST TO HAVE". Only replays that matter to koreans are gk kill and all above gk. Back in the time when 265 area was locked only replays i posted were gk kill and replays above gk later on. Also my group posted all replays of 300 arenas we killed so far so koreans can see we obtained items by playing and not hacking so yeah. And last thing, not "anyone could do it with a team" cuz if everyone could do it with a team then why is only my group 300+? People get to 285 (spectre) and they just don't wanna play without boost after that cuz spec takes hours to pass even with boost and they're lazy to make effort and they don't want to fight lich for 10-15 min without boost like my group did.
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Feb 7, 2016 15:46:25 GMT 2
Post by nubTSMC on Feb 7, 2016 15:46:25 GMT 2
I don't understand all the recipes and stuff either (for low lvl1-215). It sucks yes but still put myself through it, looking through shops after shops. We simply just want to play the official/original versions. It's like in RPGs, you can choose to play in official server or private server. In wc3, these two can mix, but you would not like it if you know what I mean.
People coming into english instead of korean. This problem would not have arisen if there was no english at all. If any people want to play, it would be in korean. These people would be committed to playing korean. Yes, there may be lesser people but they would be dedicated even. There are other non translated korean rpgs around that people play too
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Feb 7, 2016 16:25:07 GMT 2
Post by DGD-Kamina on Feb 7, 2016 16:25:07 GMT 2
I think that's enough rant and ego for one thread.
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